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JW. Org logon to email them
by sherrie11 init doesn't allow anyone to register.
are they to scared of the feedback from those who know ' the truth about the truth'.
it seems to me they should not even have a contact us function (especially if your main form of contact is email, which is the norm for 2013) who designed this thing................. are the elders and the privileged jw's sent their logon details... i would love to know the secret squirrel shite.
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JW. Org logon to email them
by sherrie11 init doesn't allow anyone to register.
are they to scared of the feedback from those who know ' the truth about the truth'.
it seems to me they should not even have a contact us function (especially if your main form of contact is email, which is the norm for 2013) who designed this thing................. are the elders and the privileged jw's sent their logon details... i would love to know the secret squirrel shite.
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Information comes DOWN from the Tower. Listen to the slave.
If they truly wanted to spread the good news, they would be using mass media.
Their appearance on the Internet is a feeble attempt to look like they are mainstream.
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The packages will arrive today... What do you think will happen?
by Faithful Witness ini have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing i could possibly do.
they stopped celebrating christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with jw's about 6-7 years ago.
we did not celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the jw's are wrong about this decision.
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And yes, I love to cook. Stirring the pot is important!
This will give them something to think about.
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The packages will arrive today... What do you think will happen?
by Faithful Witness ini have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing i could possibly do.
they stopped celebrating christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with jw's about 6-7 years ago.
we did not celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the jw's are wrong about this decision.
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I'm relieved and surprised there are not more scoldings coming at me right now. Before the JW's, my sister was the biggest gift giver in our family. I don't know if anyone else here is a convert who once had a big family Christmas tradition, but the giving is the fun part. She used to show up with piles of gifts, even though it was clear her husband resented it. He made grumbly comments about Christmas and excess, but she was very generous, and we all made homemade gifts and treats for each other. It wasn't about the presents, but we sure had fun finding and giving and laughing and eating together.
I am not trying to amass evidence against her. I have forgiven them for the way they treat me. But it is not the kids' fault. They are old enough to remember the parties, and they know they are being excluded. We had a modified version of a gift-giving holiday, that we called the "homemade trade." That went on for a few years, until "I turned my back on Jehovah," and my sister started shunning me. My house is centrally located between family that lives hours apart, so now there is no party, after they refused to come and my dad tried to change the location to his house and exclude 1/4 of the family. That story is contained in one of my earliest posts here. Our family just got indelibly ripped in half last year. The rawness of it has subsided enough for me to finally have compassion for the real victims here... The children (And my brother in law).
I was thinking that maybe since I didn't actually TOUCH the food or the gifts, they will probably accept it in secret. I didn't find the "one-click curse from satan" button on amazon. I think that Costs extra. My sister might someday have a lightbulb moment, and remember the fun we used to have. I will sit here and wonder about it, but they've broken my heart enough times now. I get the hint.
I am not the one that is confusing them.
Thank you all for your mixed JW perspectives. Explaining Christmas to JW's is like explaining JW's to the world. Haha ;-)
I would LOVE to give the gifts in person,or even have the chance to talk to my JW niece. I would take them to an amusement park or anywhere they wanted to go. Unfortunately, that can't happen. I am already being shunned and slandered, so I'm not sure I could make it worse by sending a small gift.
Perhaps they will have enough awareness or a flicker of a reality check when they see the kids are happy to get some attention. It's a calendar and a set of blocks. I'm out $100 on the whole deal, with parents and sister. A small price to make them think about how assanine they are being.
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The packages will arrive today... What do you think will happen?
by Faithful Witness ini have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing i could possibly do.
they stopped celebrating christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with jw's about 6-7 years ago.
we did not celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the jw's are wrong about this decision.
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I have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing I could possibly do. They stopped celebrating Christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with JW's about 6-7 years ago. We did nOT celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the JW's are wrong about this decision.
I have sent a few letters and cards to my sister this year, in an attempt to reach out To her. I had no reply, but she did acknowledge receiving them, when I asked her. I asked if she opened them and read them, and she said yes. About a month ago, I cashed in some gas station reward points for a restaurant gift card and sent it to her, inside a funny card about a priest getting pulled over. (Joke included at bottom of this message). Inside the card, I wrote a note about taking them out for dinner, and that someday maybe we can do it in person.
I am assuming she got the card. My kids sent a small puzzle book and handwritten notes to my mother around the same time. We heard no reply from that mailing either. I thought it odd and rude, but am just hoping they did get them. I wasn't trying to get a thank you or recognition, but I have come to realize that my family no longer believes in common courtesy. I never learn... so I am repeating myself This week.
Scheduled to arrive tomorrow, I have sent two small gifts from amazon to my niece and nephew. I emailed my sister and told her they were coming, and that the one for my nephew did not offer gift wrap. For my 12 year old niece, I sent a wall calendar: "What cats teach us." It includes cute kitten photos, along with "inspirational" messages that I could not preview. I assume it will be along the lines of, "take lots of naps" or something like that. Maybe one of the phrases will inspire an independent thought one day. For my 10'year old nephew, I sent a little building set with pulleys and levers. I heard he was learning some engineering stuff, so it looked just right for him.
I also sent a treat package in non-holiday colored packaging. One to my sisters house, and one to my folks. Too generous, i know.
Any guesses what they will do? Will they just take and eat, say nothing about it? Throw it in the garbage? Will they give the gifts to the kids? Lie to them or hide them or throw them away? I may never know. Just wondering what you all think...
I am fed up with the way they treat these kids. I seriously wish I could help them. Will this act of kindness make me even worse in their eyes? I'm not trying to buy them, but dont know how else to show them we do care about you, innocent children who did not choose to be forced into the JW trap!
Joke on card I sent:
A police officer is standing next to a car, being driven by a priest. "Father, have you been drinking?"
Priest: "Just water, officer."
Officer: "Why do I smell wine?"
Priest: "Good Lord! He's done it again! It's a miracle!"
(I crossed out the happy birthday) My sister and brother in law used to party sometimes. Alcohol and marijuana, until they were counseled to quit the pot, before they would be allowed to go in field service.
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Revelation, It's Grand Climax at Hand
by Cold Steel init's a rather large red book.. if i wanted to purchase one from a pioneer, how much would it cost?.
i'm reading a borrowed copy now.. thanks!.
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Our teenagers first Christmas tree
by truthseekeriam inwe had fun putting together our first artificial tree last week, it came out so pretty!
the lights and cheap ornaments just add to it.. we have been careful to close our blinds at night to avoid our jw neighbors from calling in the elders, that worked for a few days until we decided to go out for an early dinner and yes, i forgot to close the blinds!
as we drove up to the garage door i could see the tree in the front room and started to freak out a little.
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My mom is now a JW, so my kids will never get to experience a Christmas with grandma... But it is what it is, as they say.
When we were growing up, we always made sugar cookies to celebrate the first snow. She would get out on that same Christmas album, and we would listen to it over and over, while we sang along and decorated cookies. It was a huge, messy great time.
We always got to open one present on Christmas Eve.
As adults (before the JW's ruined our only fun family event of the year), we used to put gag gifts in stockings... Pregnancy test for my sister, incontinence pads for my mom, strange little gizmos or "as seen on TV" gimmicks. Fake lotto tickets. Hahaha you get the idea.
Those really were the days.
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Christmas presents
by Hortensia ini like a lot about christmas, lights, music, smells, food.
i like the idea of lots of presents, too, but i totally don't like the idea enforced by advertising that all of us must spend loads of money buying gifts for everyone we know.
and i think that gifts for adults should be consumable, a bottle of wine, candy, that sort of thing, a token of friendship, a little treat, but nothing grand.. so, i've made about four dozen jars of jam from wild grapes i picked in the fall, and i'm going to make lots of cranberry bread and pumpkin bread.
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In years past, I have spent hours in the kitchen, preparing and packaging homemade treats to ship to family. Then I found Wine Country Gift Baskets. This year, I shipped gift baskets of teas and treats to all the distant relatives. Free shipping! The funny thing... They rave about the commercial gift baskets, but I barely got a reply when I asked if my homemade peanut brittle, fudge, cookies and jams made it to my in-laws. This was so much easier and cheaper!
I went a little overboard this year, and sent a tower of boxes full of chocolates to my JW sister and her family. I also sent small gifts from amazon to my JW niece and nephew. I really hope they Let Them have the gifts...
For my 12-year old niece, I got a wall calendar: "What cats teach us." It inclures cute cat photos, and inspirational phrases for each month. I'm hoping maybe one phrase will inspier some independent thought for her. She is ready to rebel anyway.
For my 10-year old nephew, I got a building set for machine levers and pulleys. I heard he was getting into some structural engineering workshops, and thought this might keep his mind off the JW brainscrubbing for a few hours. He is lost, at this point, right along with his father. I think the JW's give preferential treatment to the males, and so does his father.
Anyway, I'm sending gifts to the kids, because of something someone here wrote a few months ago. They have no idea we are thinking of them. God knows what they are telling these kids about us... I hope they at least SEE the gifts, even if they are forced to reject them.
What do you think will happen?
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DEC 2013 WT Article - Slave for Jehovah - warning: ranting ahead
by ohnightdivine inthis morning's wt study almost made me vomit, stand up, pick up my bag and rush to the door.. of course it never happened.
instead, i was able to make some nice drawings on my tablet and notepad.. if you replace the name jehovah with watchtower, or the governing 8 men, it would really make sense.. what's up with all that nonstop guilt-mongering about education and having a decent job?!.
most people look down on the uneducated, and i remember, when i didn't have a job, nobody cared!.
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Haven't read this article.
When we were studying and examining the JW religion, we stumbled upon TTATT and asked our study conductor (big wig elder) about it. His reaction caused us to quit attending meetings and he transferred our study to another, less experienced JW.
The elder came by about two months later, read us the parable of the seed sower. He accused us of being choked out by weeds, and too busy "chasing riches" to progress in the kingdom. My husband pointed out that a man is supposed to provide for his family, but of course that argument did not hold water.
Funny comment about "dressing up," since the JW's all dress beyond their means. I never met such flashy people. Living in a rural county, they really stand out in their spike heels and skirts. The knee high fashion boots in wintertime... I remember sisters who had several pairs of expensive boots, always wearing them with skirts that showed their knees.
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Today I received my first ever birthday gift!
by NVR2L8 ini received a parcel at work from my daughter and her boyfriend.
it contained a birthday card in the shape of a motorcycle leather jacket and a book on rides you can take using the back roads in my part of the world!
my eyes filled with tears as i was reading the card.
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Happy Birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear NVR2L8, happy birthday to you... And many more!!
Thanks for sharing your fun with us.
Bittex, You are so right. Planning and giving gifts to someone you love, is so much fun. I think the parties are often more exciting for the guests, than for the birthday person.
happy birthday to all you December babies!